Key Events

And that's it.

It’s all over now. It won’t be the last public meeting - click here for a guide to all the meetings.

Time for the last question

It’s about resources and staff. Mumblings from the public gallery.


There’s a range of opinion, says Mike Ramsden, chairman of Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust. Staffing wise, centralising services won’t sort out problems. His trust has the NHS’s best emergency department and still can’t get staff - and it’s a national problem.

Money for new services

Is this an improvement?

We wouldn’t propose anything that we didn’t think was an improvement to healthcare services, says Dr Alan Brook, NHS Calderdale CCG’s chairman.

What would this mean for Calderdale?

FInally a word on the PFI

Thoughts on care closer to home

Shelve the plans?

Mike Ramsden, chairman of Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust, says it’s clear nobody feels they’ve been consulted properly - and the best thing to do would be to say we’ve learnt a lot, the time is right to pause, take stock and revisit the plans with everyone in a more meaningful way

Question from Adrian Smith

Consultant Adrian asks whether there’s any evidence the plans aren’t supported by consultants? He says consultants don’t feel they’ve been consulted about the plans. Sorry about all the “consultants”!

Dr Alan Brook, NHS Calderdale CCG’s chairman, says they can’t go into any more detail and it would be wrong to guess.

Former paediatric consultant Dr Adnan Muhamed, says there hasn’t been enough consultation all round.

Do you understand the proposal?

People don’t understand what’s in the proposal - and my problem is there are a lot of unknowns in this, says Mike Ramsden, chairman of Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust.

Money money money

We need a minimum of £30m a year to keep the current services going, Dr David Hughes says.

Anger in the audience

I can hear someone shouting in the audience via the live stream but I can’t hear what’s being said - other than “government”.

What about the private finance initiative (PFI) debt?

Children's services thoughts

Dr David Hughes, a GP member of Greater Huddersfield CCG, is saying poorly children needing hospital care are passed around - and you’d need a “vast” number of consultants to keep services going at both sites.


“We’re living in cloud cuckoo land if you think those doctors are around - there are not that many being trained.”


Consultant led services need to be concentrated, he says.

And the answer

Dr Alan Brook, NHS Calderdale CCG’s chairman, says the group is confident the plans don’t discriminate against anyone (high risk patients).


The proposals include a paediatric emergency center, which he says would provide a better service for children.

Next question

It’s from someone called Christina George (I think!)


It was quite long - to summarise it was about care for high risk patients in Kirklees and Calderdale.

I think we would all agree...

No shame in saying "we were wrong"

Panel member Dr Adnan Muhamed, a former paediatric consultant at Calderdale and Huddersfield NHS Foundation Trust, is saying the CCG should say they were wrong and make the plans ‘history’.


“The ageing population need better services.”

What ARE the proposals?

It can be confusing - click here to find out what the proposals are.

Next question

Dr Alan Brook, NHS Calderdale CCG’s chairman, is saying there’s a lot of support for the plans from GPs across our area


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What's the answer?

The panel

From left to right in this tweet is pictured:

Dr Steve Ollerton, chairman of the Greater Huddersfield Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG)
Dr Alan Brook, NHS Calderdale CCG’s chairman

Dr David Hughes, a GP member of Greater Huddersfield CCG
Tony Pearson, Unison’s Yorkshire regional head of health
Dr Adnan Muhamed, a former paediatric consultant at Calderdale and Huddersfield NHS Foundation Trust

Mike Ramsden, chairman of Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust.


Introductions have finished now and the debate is under way


Live stream

The live stream is working now. Updates to follow

Live stream

Just a few problems with the live stream - it should be sorted soon

Ready to go

The seats are getting filled - it’s going to be a Question Time style debate.

If you’re following at home, tweet us using #HandsOffHRI and we’ll use as many as we can in this blog.

Confused?

There’s been a lot of debate, discussion and argument about what’s being proposed - but do you actually know what the plans are?
This video explains what hospital bosses want to do.

Nick's there

Hello, and welcome to our live coverage of tonight’s debate on the future of our A&E.

Our reporter Nick Lavigueur is already there - here’s a tweet he sent.